These are numbers worth remembering. They also ministered in the synagogue, for Luke tells us that one morning they heard a mighty and eloquent man named Apollos preaching, but it was evident to them that he did not understand the fullness of the gospel, for he preached only what John the Baptist taught, that "One was coming, who would do mighty things." Then he mentions some relatives and friends, Verses 7-10: Greet Andronicus and Junias, my relatives who have been in prison with me. Tryphaena [trigh-FEE- Somewhere along the line they shared a prison term with him. So he asks that these people and the various households be greeted. 17I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Now we have even more names. There are no grounds for such a presumption. The final name is Erastus, director of public works in the city of Corinth. Nereus Romans 16:15 Paul begins this section and the previous one (1 Cor. Paul goes on to mention two other friends, Verses 5-6: Greet my dear friend Epaenetus, who was the first convert to Christ in the province of Asia. 11:2) by using the verb for “praise.”. More about Junia here. And many people have called God by different names in the Bible. 14:23 specifies “the whole church” (i.e. His wife, Domatilla, also a Christian, was banished by the emperor. Aquila Romans 16:3-5a, Say hello to Prisca and Aquila, my coworkers in Christ Jesus, who risked their own necks for my life. It took weeks to reach cities that we now reach in less than an hour by plane. Romans 16 begins with a recommendation which was written in order to introduce a woman by the name of Phoebe to the Christian community in Rome. I’ve had a few busy days, but I’ll try and get to Edgar’s paper in a day or two. In Mark 16:15, we can see that the word creature must refer to an intelligent, thinking person. We know nothing about Paul's dear friend Persis, other than that she too had worked with him somewhere, perhaps traveling in his company of evangelists. There seems to be little doubt that Rufus, along with his brother Alexander, mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, were the sons of Simon of Cyrene. The first four are male names. Also say hello to the church that meets in their house. And while claiming that authenteō can have a positive meaning, he does not give a single example where this is the case. 3Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus. 6-16. Just as many hues and colors are blended together to create a beautiful design, so many types of service are needed to present and reveal the wonderful love of God! Greet my dear friend Epenetus, who was the first convert to Christ in the province of Asia. In verse 2, she is referred to as a helper of many, and of Paul. All class distinctions disappeared within the church and that is what happens whenever the church works. the Joanna mentioned as a wealthy patron and follower of Jesus in Luke 8:3 and 24:10 may be identical to Junia, with Joanna being her Aramaic name and Junia its Greek/Latin equivalent.3 Whatever her identity, Paul’s deference to her authority illustrates the utmost respect on his part. Website © 2021 by Ray Stedman Ministries. That is a sexist term. One obvious feature was the many women mentioned. 3:8,12. They say, "If you have this mark, then you really are a Christian." Names Of God Video – Very Inspiring! Greet Mary. Michael Bird on inconsistent complementarian attitudes to women teachers, Questions about how to interpret and implement 1 Timothy 2:12, https://margmowczko.com/1-timothy-212-not-as-clear/, https://www.pbpayne.com/wp-admin/Payne2008NTS-oude1Tim2_12.pdf, https://www.pbpayne.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Payne-OUDE-CBE-ETS-final.pdf, https://margmowczko.com/chastity-salvation-1-timothy-215/. All the churches of Christ send greetings. Thank you for the link to why I Timothy 2:12 is not clear, and I appreciate your helping me in this. Epaenetus was never forgotten, for he was the first one to believe the gospel when Paul came to the province of Asia, of which Ephesus was the capital. Would not that be a great inscription, "Tested and approved in Christ"?) Romans 16:24 is the same as Romans 16:20 b. He had met some of them when his and their journeys intersected (e.g., Priscilla and Aquila, Andronicus and Junia). Thank you for your thorough analysis of Romans 16. ... Name in Hebrew reads שלומית (Shlomit) and is derived from Shalom שלום, meaning "peace". It is significant that the Greek word for “to teach” is the very first word of the sentence, and “to domineer” is the seventh. I also see no reason for Edgar’s assertion that the word for “to teach” and “to domineer” intensify each other. 18For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. I commend to you Phoebe our sister, who is a servant of the church in Cenchrea, that you may receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and assist her in whatever business she has need of you; for indeed she has been a helper of many and of myself also. CEB. 3:28). The very last letter Paul wrote from his prison cell in Rome was to Timothy. Shortly after Nero came to the throne, he forced Narcissus to commit suicide, as he did many men. This Latin name appears over 1,400 times in the corpus of names found in Rome. All the churches of Christ send greetings. After Phoebe, twenty-eight Roman Christians are listed. Apparently Phoebe was on her way to Rome (probably entrusted with this precious letter) and Paul sends an advance recommendatio… I’d love for you to use my material. This seems to indicate that Prisca was more prominent in ministry than Aquila. Hermas Romans 16:14, Say hello to Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermes, Patrobas, Hermas, and the brothers and sisters who are with them. I teach a class for licensing women for ministry for my church’s jurisdiction and always use this chapter to stress how women and men worked together in ministry, and that women did indeed have a place in the ministry of the church from the early days. The idea of “formal” versus “informal” meetings is a more modern concern, one that the NT does not address. Priscilla, with her husband Aquila, explained Christian doctrine to Apollos, and they corrected him, but some insist she was not teaching. CEB. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was. Become a Patron! It is strange, when first noted, that in only Romans and Colossians did Paul name so many people personally, and that in both instances these were churches which he had never visited. But whoever they were, they were Jews, relatives of Paul, who had become Christians. Perhaps surprisingly, there was a lot to learn from the long list of names. Say hello to Epaenetus, my dear friend, who was the first convert [literally “first-fruits] in Asia for Christ. Paul spoke of him always in the highest terms; his beloved son in the faith, who had stayed with him so long and remained faithful to the end. (Also, Adam was literally “with” Eve; he might have been beside her throughout the conversation between the snake and Eve.). 11:17ff and 1 Cor. Greet those who belong to the household of Aristobulus. I enjoyed this movie a lot. So yes, Eve handed Adam a piece of fruit and said something to him (Gen 3:6; 12f; 17). It is difficult to know for sure which Mary this is, since there were so many with this name who were followers of Jesus. She was not behaving badly towards women, but to a man, probably her husband, so there’s no reason to mention women. In this post I’m going to introduce one of the many woman mentioned in Romans 16. Julia; probably the wife of Philologus. Paul is very careful to remember these women and men who had the gift of helps. https://www.pbpayne.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Payne-OUDE-CBE-ETS-final.pdf. And associated with him is Mary, whom Paul calls "Mary the toiler." The peace will be preserved without a lot of warfare and dissension. I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon [or, minister] of the church at Cenchreae, so that you may welcome her in the Lord as is fitting for the saints, and help her in whatever she may require from you, for she has been a benefactor of many and of myself as well. . This is also a hint to us that Paul himself had some connection with the ruling family of the Jews. The first fruits of Achaia. [2] Two ninth-century manuscripts of Paul’s letters, Augiensis (F) and Boernerianus (G), have a  slightly different name, the name Olympida, which is the accusative form of the name Olympis. I apologize again for asking so many questions, and I thank you for your insight. The people Paul greets are male and female, young and old, Jew and Gentile, slave and free. Phoebe (Koine Greek: Φοίβη) was a first-century Christian woman mentioned by the Apostle Paul in his Epistle to the Romans, verses 16:1-2.A notable woman in the church of Cenchreae, she was trusted by Paul to deliver his letter to the Romans. Romans 16:16 NIV. One ancient Greek manuscript and a number of ancient versions read the name “Julia.” Most editors have interpreted it as a man’s name, Junias. CEB. Didn’t know so many women were involved in ministry and some of their spouse just give a helping hand . Not only do they comprise 35% of the believers mentioned, Please explain the … This is the only Bible verse that mentions Epaenetus. Romans is all about considering the place of the “other” in God’s plan, whether that is the ungodly (Rom. Karl P. Donfried (Peabody, Mass. Paul’s Theology of Ministry I found it because I was looking for some background for a comment I was making on Facebook in response to words and actions of a well-known American bible teacher, whom many of us feel spoke in a rather unchristian way to a sister in the Lord. Some were Christians before him, but some Paul influenced toward Christ. 11, in 1 Cor. Five families or houses are mentioned. We do not know what they did, but there is a delicate irony here. Looking back over his paper, I can see how he made many assumptions. Adam Clarke Commentary. Now we have this warning paragraph. I would enjoy hearing your thoughts on that. Nine of these people were with Paul — eight men and one woman. It seems that the Corinthian church also met in a larger gathering for a communal meal. In this post I’m going to introduce one of the many woman mentioned in Romans 16. The family of Stephanas were the first converts of Achaia ( 1 Cor. Was it private or public, or a bit of both? CEB. https://margmowczko.com/1-timothy-212-not-as-clear/, https://womeninthechurch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Edgar%20analysis%20of%20restrictive%20interpretation.pdf. You have warmed the heart of this 71-year-old! Hearing and seeing the amazing names of God helps us know who God is, and it gives us a deep sense of awe for our wonderful and great God and Father. It’s not totally clear if Herma(s) is a male name. Here are a couple of papers arguing for the hendiadys idea. They make Christians feel important. In fact, we read in Mark 16:15, “And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” It is the same Greek word used here as in Romans 8:19-22. The author of Romans is a slave or servant of Christ (Rom. A large number of those named were personal acquaintances of Paul; some had rendered him special service; many were, no doubt, his own converts. and instructed him more fully. I’m terrible with numbers. Again, thank you for your articles and work! 1 Cor. But I have always been fascinated by this man Apelles, whom Paul says has been "tested and approved in Christ." He says that even the twelve apostles in Jerusalem held them in high regard. 23. Romans 16:1 Or servant; Romans 16:1 The word deacon refers here to a Christian designated to serve with the overseers/elders of the church in a variety of ways; similarly in Phil. ~ The theology of the well-known American Bible teacher is questionable. Herodion, my kinsman - Probably another converted Jew. 5Greet also the church that meets at their house. Urbanus and Stachys we know no more about than what Paul mentions here. To import the word “teach” into the creation accounts is unwarranted and artificial. I have been reading some of your articles on authentein, and I can see that there is a fair amount of evidence to suggest that it was not a normal exercise of authority. Jason was evidently Paul's host when the apostle went to the city of Thessalonica, in Macedonia. Also, God didn’t “teach” either; he commanded. (1-2) A recommendation of Phoebe. 14:1-15:6), and the women and slaves or former slaves we have met in Romans 16:1-15. His advice is to keep away from them. Her area of interest is the mutuality (equality) of men and women in Christian ministry and marriage. As is the case with most of ... reason why so many women and their family circles are mentioned in Romans 16 is that they. His name means "called," and he certainly proved himself to be one whom God had called. They did not have a right to direct their lives any longer. Men and women who were tested, tried, and approved, who stayed steadfast in the long martyrdom of life itself. Gaius opened his house to the entire Christian community, so here is Paul, sitting there with his friends. Romans: Quote: Genesis: Isaiah: Other: Rom 1:17: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Paul switched from the Greek for “men” and “women” in verses 8-10 to the singular “man” and “woman” in verses 11-15. Another method is flattery. Paul is evidently thinking of his own trip to Jerusalem and the threat that awaits him from the Judaizers there, Verses 17-20: I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way, contrary to the teaching you have learned. She could not teach or preach or evangelize, but she could work, and she did. Junia. Most of the names in this chapter are members of the Roman church that Paul is sending greetings to. 21Timothy, my fellow worker, sends his greetings to you, as do Lucius, Jason and Sosipater, my relatives. Evidently, the apostle said something to him, such as, "Tertius, you've written this whole thing and you must have writer's cramps by now. There is no better place to make friends than in jail. (Romans 16:7-10a NIV). This chapter reveals Paul's appreciation of all who labor for the Lord. We tend to think of those ancient days as a time of limited travel, and they were. Thus he has been approved in Christ. But in many ways this is one of the most exciting chapters in Romans, as I think you will see. That’s because only the men in Ephesus were having a problem with anger and arguments. We see them first in Chapter 18 of Acts, where Luke tells us they were Jews, tentmakers by trade, who were driven out of Rome by the decree of the Emperor Claudius. (Romans 16:10b-11 NIV). Later he sends greetings from eight who are with him in Corinth. Romans Chapter 16– John Karmelich . His attitude is lamentable and cause for concern. Romans 16 is an important passage; about one third of the people mentioned in this chapter are women. But I must admit that I am wary considering this statement in the abstract of one of the papers: “The verse is not complicated, the argument of the passage seems clear, and the normal lexical meanings of the terms seem to fit well.”, The verse and the argument (whatever he thinks the argument is) is not clear, and the meaning of the Greek word authentein is debated by some. 14Greet Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermes, Patrobas, Hermas and the brothers with them. But that is how I see it too: “she will be saved through childbearing if they [husband and wife?] Julia - Minor character in the new testament Romans; Junia or Junias - Regarded highly by St. Paul in Romans. ), Rufus’ mother is the eighth woman listed in Romans 16:1-16. There were thousands of names and initials scratched on the rocks, but high up on the side of it, above almost every other name, was scratched "George Washington." The couple hosted and led a house church in Rome which is also greeted. Next to “Amen,” “Christ” is the last word of Romans (Rom. I’ll try and read it tomorrow. It is this group, probably, that Paul is referring to. Second, they believed that life is a battle, a battle to the death. All in all, the pages I read contain messy arguments, prejudiced assumptions, and only a small amount of technical or verifiable information that might actually help us understand what Paul meant in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. None of the names mentioned from Romans 16:5-15 are otherwise known. Because of their ministry to him, Apollos went on to Corinth, where he had a mighty ministry in the Word of God. That’s an interesting and valid point about Genesis 3:17, Taylor. See on Romans 16:7; (note).. Of the household of Narcissus - Probably dead also, as we have supposed Aristobulus to have been at this time. There is something in all of us that wants to see our names preserved. (Romans 16:1-15, NRSV) This is a beautiful picture of the diversity of the early church. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. Greet also the church that meets at their house. T.C. 16. This statement is dodgy on a few levels: “The passage concerns the relationship between men and women, not some practice wrong in itself.” Why would he presume that? (That is really the term, not deaconess, as the King James Version puts it. 14:34-35 does make a distinction between a church meeting and a wife asking her husband a question or two in the privacy of their own home. Jehovah Elohim – The eternal creator (Genesis 2:4-5) Jehovah Adonai – The Lord our sovereign; Master Jehovah (Genesis 15:2, 8) Jehovah Jireh – The Lord will see or provide (Genesis 22:8-14) The letter to the Romans was carried by a traveling businesswoman, Phoebe, and she is introduced to us in the opening verses of this chapter: I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church in Cenchreae. Jehovah Elohim – The eternal creator (Genesis 2:4-5) Jehovah Adonai – The Lord our sovereign; Master Jehovah (Genesis 15:2, 8) Jehovah Jireh – The Lord will see or provide (Genesis 22:8-14) Their methods are to come on with smooth and plausible talk. They only envisaged getting adequate rest in order to come back and fight through to the end. [3] Paul’s comment that Rufus’s mother was “a mother to me” may be in reference to her ministry to Paul and not just their relationship. 11:33-34). Ampliatus in an interesting name. The vast majority of Christian were not taught the Old Testament scriptures by personally reading them but by having them recited to them in group meetings. I have also heard the objection that authentein could not mean domineer since two activities are prohibited, and authentein is only not permitted in relation to men and not other women as well. And why does it matter? By Ernie and Mary Kroeger. Paul sends his greetings to them and all the brothers with them. Romans 16:1 Or servant; Romans 16:1 The word deacon refers here to a Christian designated to serve with the overseers/elders of the church in a variety of ways; similarly in Phil. (Romans 16:3-5 NIV). those women who work hard in the Lord. The name does not seem to exist. While that is true, I have always wondered why Genesis 3:17 mentions Adam listening to the voice of his wife since it is not mentioned that she said anything. Incidentally, of the six times their names are mentioned, four times Priscilla's name is put first -- which indicates that she had the gift of teaching, rather than her husband. Paul describes Rufus as “chosen” or “elect.” (This is the same word used to describe the lady addressed in 2 John and her sister. continue in xyz.” This sounds very domestic to me. However, on pages 12-13 Edgar points out that this activity was only restricted from women in relation to men, and he therefore concludes it must be a positive exercise of authority. Nympha is mentioned as having a church that meets in her house, but some insist she was not a church leader. An apostle. Romans 16 -Those Listed There… Page 1 Romans 16 -Those listed there… General listing: 1. Andronicus and Junia were a missionary couple who had been persecuted for their faith. Nine of these people were with Paul -- eight men and one woman. This is an interesting question because a study of "in Christ" will reveal to us the meaning and implications of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. A shepherd who only feeds the male sheep in his flock? How many times does the word Christ appear in the Bible? Paul says nothing about her ministry except that she acted (ministered?) Nevertheless, these people got around, and here is a record of that fact. 5:6), Israel (Rom. I have been researching into Christian egalitarianism and complementarism, and I found two papers that present arguments that I am not sure how to respond to. That does not mean that she held some governmental office in that church; we sometimes read present-day meanings into these words. (My own transl.). It is not general teaching that refers to everyone in the Ephesian church. Nereus’s sister Romans 16:15 Harnack’s Positive Descriptions of NT Women Ministers. Note that in both halves of 1 Corinthians 11 the word “church” is used. There is a Rufus here in Rome, who is well known, and Paul sends his greetings to him, and reminds him also that Rufus' mother had been his mother too, at some time. Women in Romans 16 Romans 16 is a significant chapter for the study of women in the early church. His comment about Chrysostom’s use of authent– words almost made me tear out my hair. Again, I appreciate your help and your knowledge. The Greek grammar shows that Philologus and Julia are a couple. 16:27). Though we do not know the details, it is evident that this man became a Christian and there is a hint in the book of Acts that he was present on the day of Pentecost. In the latter part of Verse 10 and in Verse 11 two groups are mentioned, involving Christians and, perhaps, non-Christians as well: Greet those who belong to the household of Aristobulus. Here is a hint that in the household of Flavius Clemens was a Christian slave, Nereus, who was undoubtedly a great influence in leading this prominent Roman citizen to Christ, and who would later give his life as a martyr for the cause of Christ. Evidently, a Christian church had grown up there, and Phoebe was a deacon in it. The word is the same for male or female.) Romans 16 concludes with the personal page—attention to the details of individual lives. 15. Keep away from them. Adam Clarke Commentary. Prisca Romans 16:3-5a Knowing names. 6. She had travelled to Rome where one of her tasks was to deliver Paul’s letter. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them. 16:7 The name Junia is a woman’s name. Did Paul make a point of affirming these women in an effort to ease tensions caused by some Roman Christians who had a problem with ministering women? Like Epaenetus, Ampliatus and Stachys (three men mentioned above), Paul refers to Persis, a woman, as a dear friend (“beloved”). All of Paul’s advice in 1 Timothy 2:8-15 is very specific. 1 Cor. Most first-century church meetings were small and often met in homes. God bless you sis . Romans 16:6 "Greet Mary, who bestowed much labor on us." Paul doesn’t tell the Ephesian men and women that they need to raise holy hands without anger when they pray. Most of the names in this chapter are members of the Roman church that Paul is sending greetings to. Greet Ampliatus, whom I love in the Lord. Nympha: A House Church Leader in the Lycus Valley (Col. 4:15) For that I am very grateful. Gaius, whose hospitality I and the whole church here enjoy, sends you his greetings. They come from various places. I only wish I’d had this 50 odd years ago when as a teenager I was being fed the “women silent in the church” line, which I always had trouble accepting! See on Romans 16:7; (note).. Of the household of Narcissus - Probably dead also, as we have supposed Aristobulus to have been at this time. Four things ring clearly throughout their lives: One, they were not their own. 6Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you. Now here is your word from the Lord: Do not follow them; do not get involved with these separatist groups. Even the father of our country felt the urge to gain a kind of immortality by carving his name on the rock. Phoebe, however, was not a member of the Roman church but lived in … Romans 16:3 Greek Prisca, a variant of Priscilla; Romans 16:7 Or are esteemed by; That was part of my devotional scripture reading this morning and since I have been long-intrigued by it and have wanted to distinguish the names by gender, I decided to take time to Google it as a question I have needed to ask for a long time. Herodion, my kinsman - Probably another converted Jew. Moore, a pastor at Roots Covenant Church in St Paul, Minnesota. (See 1 Cor. [1] Paul had not yet visited the church at Rome, but he was already acquainted with some of their ministers. Greet those in the household of Narcissus who are in the Lord. Evidently, they handled very important tasks within the church, according to the gifts they had. Even in the fourth century, Chrysostom, in his sermon on Colossians 3, said that husbands shouldn’t behave that way towards their wives. 11:2-16 is about a man or woman praying or prophesying to themselves in the privacy of their own home. ... Twenty-nine people are mentioned in Romans 16:1-16, including ten women, seven of whom are described in terms of their ministries. Likewise, 1 Timothy 2:11-15 refers specifically to a woman who was behaving badly. This is significant as there were tensions between the Jews and Gentiles in the Roman Church at the time Paul wrote his letter. None of the names mentioned from Romans 16:5-15 are otherwise known. 14:26 indicates communal participation at such gatherings. 11:2-16. Romans 16:16 NIV. I was also curious about another argument that I heard recently involving I Corinthians 11:2-16 and 14:34-35. This young man had lived up to his name, ... Several people by the name of Gaius are mentioned … Marg has a BTh from the Australian College of Ministries and an MA in early Christian and Jewish studies from Macquarie University. In Greek, Latin and other languages, the names Miriam and Maria are the same as Mary. They lift them up above the rest and give them a peculiar mark of distinction, and flatter their egos as being members of the true church. I’m not the only one who thanks God for them, but all the churches of the Gentiles do the same. A large number of those named were personal acquaintances of Paul; some had rendered him special service; many were, no doubt, his own converts. I was delighted to see your information and article pop up and immediately delved into it. It was a popular name. In fact, for 300 years there is no mention of church buildings in Scripture. Rom 8:23; 11:16; 1 Cor 16:15. And yet, they who did not have to work for a livelihood worked hard in the service of the Lord. There are two households mentioned, and two unnamed women -- the mother of Rufus and the sister of Nereus -- as well as some unnamed brethren. Prisca’s name is listed before her husband’s in four of the six times their names are mentioned in the New Testament. Genesis 3 tells us that Eve wrongly handed Adam a piece of forbidden fruit. And Edgar’s assumption that “the verb ‘teach’ concerns a position commonly connected with authority” has no basis in the New Testament (cf. I am sure that if they had known that mention in one of Paul's letters was to give them undying fame, there would have been a long line of people outside his door urging him to include them in the letter. I can understand why some would question whether the first half of 1 Cor. Verse 5 mentions a church that met in the house of Aquila and Priscilla . Note that these four labouring women in Romans 16 are not mentioned with a man. Romans Chapter 16. Furthermore, Paul refers to the ministry of Persis, something he doesn’t do for the three men. I am not going to finish it today, however. His wife, Julia, on the other hand, has the most frequently used name of any of the individuals listed in Romans 16. Greet Mary. Its inclusion in both places in some manuscripts is thought by scholars to have been accidental. After Mary, Paul mentions the couple Andronicus and Junia. I’ve had a busy day and need to take a breather. This is the last lesson for the year 2020! "Greet those in the household of Narcissus who are in the Lord." Dr. William Barclay, probably the best commentator of all to get at the background of Biblical stories, tells us that Aristobulus may have been the grandson of King Herod the Great, who lived in Rome. - stood by, while their vulnerable neighbours were crushed by the governing authorities. In these first 24 verses there are 33 names mentioned. (Source: Facebook) Image used with his permission. In Jesus' name, Amen. 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